If these elders were spiritual men, then how is it an unfair advantage? Nothing should bother these goons. The fact that the guy that did all this illegal activity and get away with it for over two years with the elders blessings are a joke. The fact that all my accusers were this guys whole family or that his brotherinlaw who was made an elder two months after sitting and lying on my jc. How he said that my husband discouraged him from pioneering because hubby said to build up a little nest egg since him and his wife were getting married. It was him that sat in my home for a meal and said he wanted to have what we had material wise and saying that to us who was pioneering at the time. This idiot had the nerve to show up at my jc and say this when it was my husband that had said that to him. He had nothing else to bring to the table as far as my hanging went.
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At my meeting, the one elder said that before the meeting starts, I have to be asked if I have a recording device on me and if I do then could I remove it. I replied yeah yeah so on the tape I really was saying yeah yeah to having a recording device on me. At least that's the way I took it. He also said the elders would not be able to say what they really want to say if they knew they were being recorded. Again, I said yeah yeah. How many yeah yeahs do I need to say? This elder just kept on blah blah blahing. He's really long winded and never shuts up. His prayers are a replay of the entire meeting which can go on for six minutes and no one ever counsels him to shut his prayers down to at least three minutes.
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I had made a transcript copy from my recorded judicial committee meeting and at the very top explained that everything in the brackets was what I wanted to say but if I did then these elders would have known all what I knew about what they were covering up and would have df'd me for sure. So I put down to bethel what we knew in brackets and they held that against me as well as not writing down all the bible texts that were read to me that evening. Ummm, they only read a total of six scriptures to me and I wrote them down. My transcript was word for word. I gather the elders lied to them saying they read tons of scriptures to me. Do they think I'm stupid and will go away? I have the tape of the whole jc where it would prove these elders never contacted us for over a year when we left. The one elder actually states that on my tape. He said they did try to get a hold of me at least once in the year which they did not. Idiots! On to the next step since I seem to be ruffling some feathers.
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Smart asses! And yes they did pay a whopping 75 cents postage.
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Don't know why it did that. So, my judicial was last year July 28th 2013, I had dropped off my transcript of my judicial meeting in April of this year to the bethel after speaking to a brother there and him telling me to bring in detail my story. That these elders could not publically reprove me on the grounds of discouraging young ones six years ago from pioneering. Four months go by and I was basically called a liar over the phone by Mike in the service department and to go back to my elders and not tell them I was at the bethel. That it would take at least 2-3 years before they could get to my complaint due to the complaints ahead of mine. So I post my story last week on Cedars blog. After all this time, I get a letter from bethel that reads like this:
Dear XXXX,
We are now able to respond to the material you brought to our office regarding the decision of a committee of the XXX Congregation involving you.
The alleged transcript you provided was reviewed but was of limited usefulness. The numerous parenthetical additions you made to the alleged dialogue and hyour deletion of all bible texts read during the hearing undermined it's reliability. Further if you recorded the hearing such recording was done surreptitiously and without the consent of the witnesses and elders. When one party secretly tapes a conversation, he or she has an unfair advantage in any after the fact review of that conversation.
True, it is not enjoyable to be counseled or disciplined, (Heb. 12:5, 5,11) Yet, as discussed in The Watchtower of April 15, 2014 pages 28 and 30, it is good to think about the efforts made by those who offer counsel. The elders evidently spent much time and effort to help you restore your reltionship with Jehovah God. We now encourage you to take positive steps to 'return to the shepherd and overseer of your soul,'by regularly attending the meetings of the local congregation.--Hebrews 10:24,25; 1Peter2:24.
We assure you of our concern for your spiritual well-being
Your brothers,
Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses
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"We Love You All Very Much"
by Apognophos ini'm not sure if this has been discussed before.
you guys might recall that when the 2013 yearbook came out, the letter from the governing body ended a bit unusually:.
we love you all very much.
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Blondie, I hear you.
That was one of my pet peeves. Everytime someone would say I miss you, I would say Oh yeah, what do you miss about me? I would get a blank stare or well, I miss your comments and your smiling face. Liar!!!! Just like the GB members. They say they love us but ask yourselves, what is it do they love about us? Answer: your money and that's it. That's the only contact they have with their followers. It's their money they miss about them.
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Scare tactics and manipulation in the Nov 2014 Watchtower . Low down dirty rotten charlatans
by Watchtower-Free inscare tactics and manipulation in the nov 2014 watchtower .. low down dirty rotten charlatans.
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It's really sad these people don't read their bibles. It's not going to be a war in the middle east that brings on the great tribulation but god himself! It's not an organisation that we have to stay close to that will take us through harmegeddon since the bible states all will have an individual accounting with god.What it does say is when you see all these things start to take place, stand still and lift your heads for your deliverence is near. The jw's have no faith in god or his son or else they wouldn't be reading these disgusting rags. The put their faith in men instead of just god alone.
It's pretty sad for the longest time I use to hear them tell us to go to your local hall and wait it out there and now they show these pictures of hiding out in a bunker or basement. Such little faith these men have.
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Nov 2014 WT, much about nothing, or is it?
by Quarterback inthe article "why we must be holy" ties in obedience as being holy.
there is a subheading in this article that states " prove yourselves holy by being obedient".
par 9 quotes three brothers who had some conflicts, but they went along with the org.
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Navytown, that's exactly what they want you to believe. They know alot of the elders are scumbags and that's why they now have the co doing the pickings. They know people are fed up so now they want you to think that it's not just the elders but now the co will double lick the label as though it's his holy stamp of approval.
My elders let a criminal smash in his wife's car, drunk and by hand, wave a loaded gun in her face and threaten to kill her, got a highschool student to forge his wife's name on a legal document and as soon as he found out we knew about it, he fired her, threatened to kill his father, does not have a gun license to own these guns, have had the cops called on him several times for domestic abuse, had an affair on his wife-----all this and the elders did absolutely nothing but came after us for knowing about it and stopped going to the meetings. The kicker out of all of this and watchtower I hope your reading this, the co was informed about it and didn't want to hear about it. Why? All at once this guys relatives, who oddly enough were my accusers all decided to pioneer and put on a show. After the co was done which was this year, none of them are pioneering anymore and two of my accusers were made elders two months after my jc. Bethel was called and I gave them my transcript fo my jc and then they had the nerve to say they never told me to bring it in. That was Rod Jong who lied and has now taken Ken Little's place at the canadian bethel branch. They all got their reward as far as I'm concerned and will have to face god when the time comes. This is their definition of holy and it reeks.
Any of you lurkers have better pay attention for these wacos are gearing up for something and it's something that involves all of you. Get away from these whores.
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JW.ORG logo on EVERYTHING
by dynamiterose77 infine line between idolotry and branding... just sayin.... .
i'm just seeing a lot of home-made or print on demand site items with jw.org logos pasted all over.
as an art director, i laugh, because it's hideous.
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Outlaw, close but no cigar:) In this case, even the golden calf should be prostrating itself before the Almighty logo.